Chris Saad, co-founder of the Data Portability movement - probably well known for having the least imaginative graphic designers . Has started up another venture, it seems mainly to capture a the current vernacular of the day - "data portability" is passe, viva le "open web."

The reasons for muddying already murky waters are ostensibly to broaden the mandate. Data portability is about the concept of openness and evangelism but the open web is about implementation issues. This is, at best, a pedantic separation of concerns that bears little fruit for benefitting anybody, but hey a launch gets more press coverage than a rebrand or a mandate change.

Further, the names seem to be misapplied - Data portability connotes FAR more technical concerns than "open web," which is supposedly a highly inclusive term - so crappy title for a useless institution.

Nomenclature aside, creating an organization to handle implementation concerns divorced from a normative architecture is profoundly unwise - a lesson taught to us by the history of international and trans-governmental organizations. The presumption of a harmonized normative ideal is naive at best, pathetically short-sighted at worst.

The web ALREADY has a standards organization . And, compared to many other industries, a very consumer focused one. Data Portability was and is a promising institution for consumer advocacy - to act as a mouthpiece for the disparate cloud of users crying out for a decentralized identity and escape from walled gardens like Facebook. The Open Web is so patently and obviously a cash-in on a buzzword it’s hard not to raise one’s hackles.

It’s also obvious that to get the support of companies like Facebook and Plaxo (read: Comcast) major surgery had to be applied to the mandate of Data Portability’s mandate - so much so, that in order to avoid alienating DP.org’s supporters Saad instead started a new thing - in effect abandoning Data Portability.

I’m disheartened by the consumption of a perfectly good domain name for something so useless or just as likely, damaging. This is a corporate consortium that can now express its will obfuscated in code and technical specifications rather than policies and protocols - we already have the IEEE, ISO and yes, even the W3C for that. They’ve taken ownership of the term and as a result fundamentally altered its meaning. From now on one will have to clarify "open web.org or open web?"

Also, what about the Apple Store? The iPhone is a impenetrable device unless you build for it - Jobs has spouted various specious technical justifications for what is a business decision of forcing developers to the phone over and above other platforms.

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I think you have miss understood part of the situation Jeremy.

I didn’t start this new thing. I am still involved with the DataPortability project. I am not involved with the Open Web Foundation.

The foundation, however, is useful for providing legal frameworks for standards. As you point out, the DataPortability project is focused on evangelism only.

Also the group was not started to capitalize on the buzz around data portability. The project itself popularized the term.

Also all the major vendors have been supporting DataPortability project since very early - no change to mandate required.

My sincerest apologies for my misapprehension (and lazy reading) of the facts of the matter.

And my kudos to you for responding to what was, admittedly, an irrational and visceral reaction to scant information regarding the OpenWeb.org.

That said, Data Portability is an organization I’ve held in esteem for some time - and it is for that reason that I am rankled by the upstarting of OpenWeb.org; it smacks of johnny-come-lately opportunism and Not-Invented-Here thinking and I apologize for associating you with any of that. Any criticism (however under-informed) was leveled at OpenWeb.org and not DP.org.

Perhaps the only salient point I made is regarding the (lack of) necessity for a separate organization and the confusion this brings to an already opaque discussion - I’m sure of anyone you can appreciate how difficult it is to explain the details of the situation to a non-technical person. Given the task-force nature of DP it seems that OW.org’s mandate could easily be accommodated - without utilizing a term that should belong to general discourse instead of a brand.

I am also wary of any legalistic organization self-described as “consumer focused” that receives substantial backing from corporations - especially ones with a history of being less than enthusiastic about total agency of their customers.

Thanks for setting me straight. DP.org is doing great things and I hope and trust you’ll keep up the good work.

Jeremy to be fair - the OpenWeb Foundation has yet to clearly announce their goals. I am one of the co-founders of DataPortability, and recently appointed by the community on the new 12 person seering/executive committee, and I hope to work with the OWF to find synergies. Last thing we want is a split community competing against each other for what is really the same vision, and I hope the founders of OWF feel the same.

Give the guys a bit of time - I personally have my own concerns, but you need to give them some breathing space to build the vision. At core, it’s a great concept (helping communities circumnavigate the IPR minefield) but it’s the other areas where I am reserved and your arguments raise a good perspective, thanks.

Jeremy to be fair - the OpenWeb Foundation has yet to clearly announce their goals. I am one of the co-founders of DataPortability, and recently appointed by the community on the new 12 person seering/executive committee (as was Chris Saad), and I hope to work with the OWF to find synergies. Last thing we want is a split community competing against each other for what is really the same vision, and I hope the founders of OWF feel the same.

Give the guys a bit of time - I personally have my own concerns, but you need to give them some breathing space to build the vision. At core, it’s a great concept (helping communities circumnavigate the IPR minefield) but it’s the other areas where I am reserved and your arguments raise a good perspective, thanks.

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